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Post by pete on Jul 24, 2020 14:29:25 GMT -7
This is going to be a build thread about the Tiger Shark kit. It was originally released (only once) As the Car Craft Dream Rod. AMT then irrevocably altered the molds to turn it into the Tiger Shark kit. No I will not be returning this one to its original configuration. Instead I am going to try and improve on the hack job that is the Tiger Shark. Nope, have no idea on color but it will be 60's flake/fades and candies for shure. Engine??? Have an idea on that but not set in stone yet. Wheels and tires...Yup got those nailed down already (I will do something with the rims) They wont be chrome or at least not totally chrome. Probably not going to get as heavy into the build details on this one as I did with the Charger since I am kinda freestyle/winging it with this one. I have an idea or see a tangent to go on and I just go...its' the OCD. I will however try to keep everyone watching up to speed. That said, Stay Tuned!!! More to come...  .  |
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Post by pete on Jul 25, 2020 6:03:50 GMT -7
Todays installment:  This thing is a mess! I know asymmetrical was a build style in the 60s' but Even the chassis is different from one side to the next, and not in a good way. Nothing fits or lines up. Its designed to sit like a roller skate with the front wheels missing. The interior...OK so first order of business. Ride height, I want it to sit LEVEL and as low as I can get it and still retain some of its original asthetic. My wheel and tire choice dictated that some lowering in the rear and flares may be in order. Yeah, I was waiting for paint to dry and got bored. This is what happens when I get bored...LOL    Stay tuned!!! |
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Post by moramarth on Jul 25, 2020 6:05:21 GMT -7
That thing sure puts the A$$ in asymmetric... 
The underpinnings look quite good, I once contemplated buying one just for that and building a post-apocalyptic Mad Max style buggy onto it. Then I woke up.
I believe the original has been partly reverted to it's "Dream Rod" form, but with modern touches such as the wheels, that might be a project.
Cheers,
M
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Post by pete on Jul 25, 2020 6:11:55 GMT -7
LOL...You aint kidding! assimmetric comes to mind. Gonna have to cut it up to make it all fit/work. definitely can see the VW in the frt suspension. Its all good though. I'll try to do Bill Cushenberry proud on this poor thing.
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Post by moramarth on Jul 25, 2020 6:53:42 GMT -7
After I looked a bit more closely it appears the original has had a full restoration, what I'd been looking at was a modern "inspired by":
Cheers,
M
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Post by pete on Jul 25, 2020 7:21:29 GMT -7
Very cool...Of course I would be happy just to have that dream rod model box in the foreground of the pic...If not the whole kit. Would save me having to alter another tiger shark...
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Post by poet on Jul 25, 2020 7:53:17 GMT -7
I'm confident you will do it justice!
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Post by moramarth on Jul 25, 2020 11:15:30 GMT -7
Ever contemplated using the bowl from a plastic spoon to make a flared wheel arch? They come in a variety of sizes and with the larger ones there can be a bit of variety in shape. It strikes me that there are also possibilities for radiator shells for hot rods, power bulges on hoods, etc. Not that I've tried the ideas out, but I did make a lot of use of plastic spoons (along with disposable razor handles, Tic-Tac boxes, and such) back in the day when I was scratch-building Sci-fi spaceships for wargaming with. Another wargaming related thought: with vehicles, robots and so on with alternative weapon fits gamers often use rare-earth magnets to make parts of kits swoppable. I'm wondering if (given the Tiger Shark has opening doors) these might be usable to hold opening doors closed in the correct position as they often seem reluctant to stay closed or look misaligned...
Regards,
M
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Post by pete on Jul 25, 2020 16:33:21 GMT -7
Contemplated the spoons for the flares (Great thought by the way) But, I want the tires fully exposed to get their size to add weight to the side view of the body. Not much of a side profile to this thing. As for the doors...Well, some work happening there as well. Like the magnet idea, seen em used as you stated. You are a crafty fellow M! Pete  |
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Post by pete on Jul 26, 2020 9:57:37 GMT -7
Ok gang...Heres where were at with the tiger shark. Cut the lower body tub in half, so I could glue the rear half in place and fill ALL the seams/gaps.(there were ALOT of em) Radiused the front edge of the doors, figured out a hood scoop and the flares...Soo...This is kinda the look I'm going for here...    Stay tuned!!! |
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Post by mustang1989 on Jul 26, 2020 10:52:37 GMT -7
This is already looking kick a$$. This last improvement was just what this car needed. Beeeeautiful work Pete!!!!
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Post by moramarth on Jul 26, 2020 17:30:37 GMT -7
Nah, just low animal cunning and the fragmentary memories of a misspent life...
Are you going to blend the flared arches with the body? I can see it being a challenge, especially if the doors are to open. CA and baking soda for the bulk of the fill, with a skim of filler to smooth it off?
With apologies to William Blake (1757-1827)
"Tiger Shark, shiney, bright,
That kit's a steaming lump of sh1te;
Yet some inspired hand and eye,
might fix that godawful asymmetry!"
Cheers,
M
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Post by pete on Jul 26, 2020 18:41:43 GMT -7
LOL...That's awesome...Your well read for someone with a misspent life M!...I thought I was the only one. Gonna use actual automotive polyester filler for it all. Need something that's gonna be stable forever with this build...But yes, blending all the flares into the body as well as re-shaping the doors a bit...And the A pillars...and the roof...And the hood...  |
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Post by DeeCee on Jul 27, 2020 2:59:19 GMT -7
COOL !! 
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Post by stitchdup on Jul 27, 2020 10:31:48 GMT -7
Going to enjoy watching this. Personally I would avoid using glue and baking soda except to reinforce areas that wont be seen. It sucks the colour out of enamel paints, reacts with acrylics and will spoil a build if it gets near damp air as it sucks in the moisture and bubbles up. Its still handy to have but only for very well hidden areas that wont be seen or painted and even then only to make glue dry faster
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Post by pete on Jul 27, 2020 14:45:32 GMT -7
No worries Les!! Going with my tried and true filler here...  |
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Post by pete on Jul 27, 2020 14:57:35 GMT -7
Todays installment: What the heck is he doing!!! I know, it looks awful...LOL...Initial fill on all the flares/roof and A pillars...I just slather it on knowing I have to shape it all to my liking. Most of it will be dust on the floor when I'm done. Hopefully it wont require a second fill and I'll be able to move on to finish work and primer...   |
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Post by moramarth on Jul 28, 2020 1:11:15 GMT -7
Thanks for the heads-up. I haven't experienced it myself, perhaps because I've only used it as a cheap bulk fill under a skin of more easily-shaped epoxy putty or the like. My worst experience was when I split a fingernail when a craft knife blade broke while removing some second-hand wargames figures from an inappropriately-size base. I thought given it's strength and toughness combined with it's adhesive properties a layer over the split fingernail would hold the halves together until it grew out. However, it transpires: 1) It doesn't adhere well to keratin. 2) When you add the baking soda to a previously applied layer of CA the result of the two combining is a brief, but fairly intense, exothermic reaction...
Regards,
M
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Post by moramarth on Jul 28, 2020 2:01:29 GMT -7
Well, one more layer of that stuff and it might be quicker to carve it from a solid block of styrene!  Cue Monty Python Yorkshiremen mode:
"Aye, when I were a lad if we wanted a custom body we had to mek it from a lump of granite wi' nowt but us fingernails" "Granite, Obidiah? Tha' were lucky, we had to carve it from cast iron wi' us teeth..."
It's a bit late now*, but I'm inclined to think it might look better without the roof and just a low wrap-around racing-style windshield. If you ever do another maybe work with the asymmetry and do an open single seater? A bit like a D-Type Jag but with the head rest fairing on the left hand side, and the hatch-covered "occasional seat" on the right?
Cheers,
M
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Post by pete on Jul 28, 2020 10:03:43 GMT -7
Aye.. I've had ti di up the ore ti mak te iron ti mak te custom body using nuthin but an old shoe and a pencil.
This one may end up a roadster. Not liking any of the transitions between the A pillars and doors that I have tried so far. Or I may just use the holy hand grenade of Antioch on it..LOL...
MM exothermic...Wont do that again huh...
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Post by stitchdup on Jul 28, 2020 12:56:21 GMT -7
Aye.. I've had ti di up the ore ti mak te iron ti mak te custom body using nuthin but an old shoe and a pencil. This one may end up a roadster. Not liking any of the transitions between the A pillars and doors that I have tried so far. Or I may just use the holy hand grenade of Antioch on it..LOL... MM exothermic...Wont do that again huh... The front end has a strong hint og 65-66 buick riviera to it, maybe a boatail type rear would work? |
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Post by pete on Jul 28, 2020 17:24:08 GMT -7
Front end does look Riv-ish. I see the sponsons on a racing boat when I look at the front fenders(wings for you fellows across the pond) Boat tail would be neat but...I don't feel the thing has the length to pull that off proportionally. I have no desire to alter the wheel base either. Just want to improve whats already here. Beginning to wonder, if its possible to make it a cohesive thing when its all said and done. Trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear...LOL...I shoulda started with a silk sow.
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Post by pete on Jul 28, 2020 17:48:55 GMT -7
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Post by moramarth on Jul 28, 2020 19:04:35 GMT -7
Nice work on blending in the flares! There may not be room for a boat tail but the proportions would allow a slight lengthening to cure that butt-ugly...er...butt... You could create your own rear-body end cap and fit it, your filling skills are certainly up to it.
As to the motor, the original Dream Rod kit included an alternative engine, a racing-style quad OHC item exhausting through the top of the "V". How it would have fitted the restricted space I don't know. I wonder if the hood is long enough to take a turbo straight six?
Regards,
M
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Post by pete on Jul 28, 2020 19:51:04 GMT -7
Thank you sir (Man the dust was flyin'!) Yeah, I wish that Indy car engine was included in this re-pop. I believe it was supposed to be a Cosworth headed 255 cubic inch ford Windsor. That engine didn't work too well for Lola or the GT 40 Mark one. I am thinking about doing something to enclose the rear. Give it a more complete quarter panel/wheel opening look but keep the But ugly Assymmitrey. I could stretch the hood/opening. OOH! a Twin turbo 2 JZ would be the cats behind! There is enough room to put a Rat motor in this things eng compartment though.
Now that you mention it M...I have a few of the old SMP GT 40s' laying around. I cold use the 255 DOHC from one of those. Nah...The accuracy/detail is awful on em. I don't need more awful on this build. Gotta remove the ugly, not add it back in LOL...
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Post by poet on Jul 29, 2020 7:41:34 GMT -7
Nice work!
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Post by pete on Jul 30, 2020 14:21:15 GMT -7
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Post by pete on Jul 30, 2020 14:31:48 GMT -7
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Post by stitchdup on Jul 30, 2020 14:54:42 GMT -7
Unusual engine choice, looks to be amc in origin (just saw one that looked like that on full custom garage)
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Post by mustang1989 on Jul 30, 2020 19:17:18 GMT -7
This is taking on some great shape Pete. Looking forward to seeing what you do with that engine.
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